i'm not doing anything for your network. i'm just lying here. and he said, no. and he was going to keep me on full salary. i said, do it on half. nope, full salary until you get batter, and that was eight months, and i never forgot that. and in 1980, when he became president of nbc, and he called me and he said, i'd like you to come over here, i knew that i owed bill, so i went. that the story. by the way, his brother, who i had hoped was going to be here tonight, we exchanged e-mails today, bernie -- he also went with -- to nbc and he told me he really did it to be with marvin and called it sibling love. appears constantly in the book because he does so many things. i want to do a little more on networks because there are some tricky things -- how are we doing on time?